Animation

It may take some time before Youtube covers productions cost, but as has been previously mentioned it is a great way to see if what you've got can attract an audience. Sometimes a great idea is before it's time, or only a great idea to the creator. Getting out in front of people will help to determine if you have a project with legs or you need to move on to the next. I would give Youtube a run, but continue to pitch. As your audience grows you'll have better positioning should someone check you out.

Ok Kamar, I see what you mean. That sounds like advertising, not affecting number of times the algorithm promotes your video in searches. A slight distinction in my mind.

I’ll also say that putting animation on YouTube is not enough to build an audience. Grassroots community building would involve social media, email newsletters, patreon, discord, etc.

Mike Boas Yes Youtube is a good way to promote your content to get some early traction to show engagement with your content to your investors, the 2d Anime teaser i posted recently , that IP is on tiktok only , and they are killing it, they are producing a show cuz they are super hit on Tiktok.

Youtube is viable for getting your work out there, and if you can build an audience to attract sponsors, then you have a better shot of making money. Whether it is YouTube, Roku etc. the future of entertainment will be indies finding a way to get their work somewhere as the industry continues to implode. If you can afford to produce it and get it out there, that's better than pitching for years and having it sit still on your hard drive. But you have to promote it, advertise it, and just hope that it will get discovered if you want any chance of financial success.

Has anyone tried to, or successfully used Crunchyroll?

This looks fun, Mike Boas! "Really shows what you can do with imagination and not much money" I only work in the indie world right now, so I know exactly what you mean. I gotta check out "Hundreds of Beavers." Thanks for sharing.

It looks awesome, Mike Boas! I'm adding it to my watchlist ASAP!

Very imaginative, thanks for the share Mike Boas

Just watched it with my daughter. We couldn't stop chuckling all the way through it.

Thanks for sharing. The twelve principles are always desirable; however, when it comes to short deadlines and high quotas, the inside joke is that we can only afford three!

Fast, good, or cheap. Pick two!

Which principle can you get away with the most Bob Harper ?

Daniel Husbands It depends on the project, the deadline and the goal of the project, but usually the three we can use and get away with and still make a project watchable are easing, arcs and timing.

Many are just baked into the process. Pose-to-pose is HOW to animate. Staging is HOW to communicate clearly.

That said, I animated for years without eases. I was able to tell stories fine, but shots lacked a certain finesse.

may i read snootworld

Sounds like a very creative idea, with all of the stuff on Netflix seems like a perfect fit to me.

What's funny is the article basically said he pitched Netflix and they said no. Not that they had any commitment to say otherwise. So really the article is like a press release saying "Lynch has a project, anyone want to hear the pitch and bid?"

why dont STAGE32 come up with crowdfunding the Indie movie , they have 1mn users , if each one pays $10 , there you have 10mn , and all the talent is here only , i have a mid size full service 3d animation and vfx studio, delivering at highy discounted budgets. , and STAGE32 is a known brand, they can distribute it, and STAGE32 has the potential to grow up as a full 360 ecosystem.

Sounds like you’re proposing what Legion M does.

This points to a really important discussion on work/life balance and the realistic or unrealistic nature of expectations from studios. I think the appetite of content consumption is too high for studios to keep up with demand, and while I'm also a big consumer of content, I've read about the pressure to put out a product at the expense of peoples sanity.

Especially with animated series, the pace should be something that doesn't wipe out an entire team after each season. I remember when you had to wait each week to watch the next episode of shows on tv. Now all that work, the months and months of work (if not years), is watched within a week and the demand for the next season (if the show is good) starts almost immediately.

Hope the team rests up well.

When they ask me to describe Bluey, I always tell people that it's Seinfeld for the whole family. And like Seinfeld, I think the creator wants to go out on a high note.

I completely agree, Daniel Husbands! As a content lover who understands what it takes to bring a great story to the screen, I'm always happy to wait as long as it takes to get more. I love to live within a story world and watch the characters grow, but if you tell me, "It's going to take 2-3 years for us to do it right", then I'll happily wait 2-3 years. I'll wait longer. I just wish more people felt that way and that the market allowed for it.

That makes sense, Bob Harper! You dont want to push yourself and end up watering down a great story.

i know i've mentioned it elsewhere on s32 - bluey is one of the best animated shows in the history of forever - hands down - and even this - needs a minute to regroup. i'm glad they are honoring their storytelling. especially after seeing the half hour special - sweet as ever - but - lacking, imho...

Right now, every contest and exhibition needs to detail the acceptable or non-acceptable use of AI. Once it is not stated participants will do anything.

With all of the buzz about AI everywhere, it would be really hard to see a competition of this size never consider AI being used. While I can't say they knew for sure, just seems unlikely no one who organized this is connected to the issue. AI is everywhere right now.

I worked in the music industry for a number of years, Daniel Husbands. There are some aspects of it that exist in a bubble. Some of that is due to the busy nature of the industry.

Perhaps its worth having AI specific competitions.

AI video is filled with mistakes but you have to exploit that somehow if you use it. Nothing is ever perfect or finished as you know. The video simply does not go with the music. This is more about Pink Floyd that any love for AI.

Thanks for sharing. Robert McKee's STORY was Pixar's bible at their beginning.

Bob Harper what about recently?

Law Jackson I think Save The Cat has infiltrated all of the studios. But it still boils down to a similar structure and some sort of retelling of the Hero's Journey.

Disney sent a bunch of us to McKee's seminar right as his book STORY was publishing. They used to really care about the story department.

Love the video Law Jackson and I wholeheartedly agree. Stories do have the ability to heal and I love the idea of story and yes, animation being a conduit for that healing.

Some great examples of fantastic animations Law Jackson , I agree that animation is a unique and powerful tool for teaching and storytelling is how knowledge has been past from generation to generation throughout history. It certainly is another method to help bring about healing and change.

Thanks for sharing, Law Jackson . Not only does animation have the power to heal, but it also has the power to connect. As a father with a son on the Autism Spectrum and working with a studio of neurodiverse animators, I see firsthand how animation allows those whose minds work differently to find a medium to connect with everyone else.

Bob Harper I really appreciate that. You know, we've been running in the same circles for a couple of decades now. I'd love to connect and catch up!

Law Jackson Sure thing!

I've learned so much from Mike Disa's webinars in the past - this is gonna be great!

My question is in the animation space is it better to seek literary representation or lead with the visuals for example your pitch deck or characters?

It will be interesting to discuss the state of animation and the business side of it, with all the technological changes that are converging all at once.

Thank you for the post, Summers! I really need this webinar, though I may not make it to the appointed live date. Is there a way I send my question ahead of time??

Hey, Sari! Nice to e-meet you! No worries if you were unable to attend live. You can put your question below for our moderator :)

Ok, my question is this: is there no longer a certain primary point of how marketing makes the audience first hear about new films or TV series? Or: how has the changes in media industry affect marketing for any animated product? Because these days, my friends and family barely learn about new movies or series in general, and it appears far fewer and more scattered for the animation industry (e.g. I only saw one trailer for Teenage Kraken on Linear TV). As I said in a previous post comment, lack of publicity is lack of recognition!

Thanks Sari!

Really neat! You can do driveby voiceovers!

jealous! love an office that can be anywhere!

That's the nicest recording studio I've ever seen!

Thanks, everyone! I appreciate the kind and supportive words. I will definitely let you know how things progress!

If anyone in the Phoenix, AZ metro area is looking for a van for they own mobile studio, my neighbor, Steve, just told me today that he's selling his conversion van. It's pretty nice inside...carpeted, bed/bench, captain's chair in the middle, and it even has a high top, too! It needs some work - the passenger seat is wobbly, and the convertible bed/bench in back is up on 2x4's. But... if you're handy and need a mobile studio, you could fix it up. (The running board is also a bit loose.) It's a Ford Econoline 250, and it's got 187,000 miles on it, but he says it still runs well. He's got clean title in hand. We're having a neighborhood garage sale this Saturday, and he said if it doesn't sell it by then, he's just going to put a "For Sale" sign in his window. (I'm in south Chandler/ Sun Lakes neighborhood.)