I Just purchased a Canon C100 MK2 and I wanted to get a Gimble system for steady shots. The movi costs more than the camera is there one out there for beginners that I can get for a whole lot less?
What about a dolly shot? Steadycam or gimble isn't the answer to everything and owning one and using one enough to be good at it are two different things.
That was my quick answer via my phone. I have a slider, I have a low end dolly. I have a wheelchair I can use with my adaptable shoulder rig. Obviously that doesn't look as cool for a client, so I use that on personal projects and stick with the slider and dolly for paid work. If I were to need a gimble system for a job I would figure the rental into the job with an extra day or two to practice with that system. So far I have done everything with the gear I have.
Questions to ask yourself before buying a Steady Cam System 1.Do You Really Need a Stabilizer? This is the very first question that you should ask yourself. Do you really need a stabilizer? Don’t just by a stabilizer because others around you have. You need to have a sure-fire purpose for buying a stabilizer — because a quality stabilizer is going to cost you some money. 2.Will You Use Stabilization Often? Another question that you need to ask yourself early on is how often you will be using stabilization. If you answer this question by saying you’ll only use the stabilizer a few times, then you really should rethink your purchase. However, if the stabilizer is something that you’ll be using over and over again, you may want to invest some serious money in a nice stabilizer rig. Just remember… whatever you purchase, there is an art to using the device 3.What Type of Mobility Do You Need? The next big question you need to ask yourself: what type of mobility do I need? Do you need to attach a camera to a car? Do you need to run behind or in front of a character? Or perhaps you need to get an aerial shot? By answering this question, you can determine if you need a 3-Axis Gimbal, Steadicam rig, or even a drone. While a drone itself is not a form of stabilization, there are gimbal options for just about every drone which allow you to capture amazingly smooth footage. 4.How Heavy Is Your Camera Load-Out? This is going to be a very important question that you need to answer as soon as possible. Knowing the weight of your camera load-out will determine how much you need to spend for stabilization, as not all stabilizers can accommodate heavier amounts of weight. Cheaper stabilizers can handle lighter camera loads, while the more expensive stabilizers like the MoVI M15 can handle up to 15lbs of camera load, which should cover a number of higher-end cameras for those that do not know load out includes the weight of the camera and ALL accessories like battery matt box lens's filters monitor audio recorder anything you need to mount on the camera or rig to do the job. 5.Setup Time and Compactness? You’ll want to also make sure that you know exactly how long the setup time is for each stabilization option. This is important information to know… you don’t want to waste shooting time trying to setup your stabilization option. Also, you’ll want to know how compact the stabilization option is as well. This information will really come in handy if you have to do any major traveling. Odds are your not ready to step up to a good steady cam system just yet even a half way decent cheap set up will run you a Grand or more. my advice even though your not asking is instead build a really good shoulder rig to start out I say this because I ran out and bout a steady cam rig first and the reality was I needed a good shoulder rig a lot more then the Steady cam Rig Vitale
@John Garrett (and others) If the need is a day or two for a client, why not hire an operator? No learning curve, no equipment cost, build it into the price for the job or sell it with the quote for the project as an add on. We could bring in a Stedi-cam operator for these shots, but that would be $xx extra
JD, that is a great idea overall. But everything I have shot I have been able to do well with what I have. Although for an upcoming project I am considering a glide cam.
Thank you guys all this is great info. I will look into the glide cam. I am just starting out. and the gear has been a mystery. I would like to shoot shorts but Commercial production or industrial video is great too.
The movi is by far the best on the market! Free fly systems really knows what they're doing. There are several more cost effective options but with that camera the movi works beautifully
Still baffled by why you think that just starting out you need a stedicam of some sort. You probably need to develop the skills and muscles to do on the shoulder and hand-held camera work first. Seems like you're putting the cart before the horse. There's a ton of stuff your going to need to kit-out a new camera.
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Never used it, but I found this when I was looking at them for my C100. http://www.supamods.com/product/moza-3-axis-gimbal-system/ Oh and I came across this too: http://www.came-tv.com/preorder-came8000-gimbal-for-bmcc-and-red-camera-...
Then what do you use for steady moving shots?
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What about a dolly shot? Steadycam or gimble isn't the answer to everything and owning one and using one enough to be good at it are two different things.
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Dolly or a shoulder rig. I can get solid shots with some practice. steady shots have been shot for a long time before technology. ☺
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That was my quick answer via my phone. I have a slider, I have a low end dolly. I have a wheelchair I can use with my adaptable shoulder rig. Obviously that doesn't look as cool for a client, so I use that on personal projects and stick with the slider and dolly for paid work. If I were to need a gimble system for a job I would figure the rental into the job with an extra day or two to practice with that system. So far I have done everything with the gear I have.
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Questions to ask yourself before buying a Steady Cam System 1.Do You Really Need a Stabilizer? This is the very first question that you should ask yourself. Do you really need a stabilizer? Don’t just by a stabilizer because others around you have. You need to have a sure-fire purpose for buying a stabilizer — because a quality stabilizer is going to cost you some money. 2.Will You Use Stabilization Often? Another question that you need to ask yourself early on is how often you will be using stabilization. If you answer this question by saying you’ll only use the stabilizer a few times, then you really should rethink your purchase. However, if the stabilizer is something that you’ll be using over and over again, you may want to invest some serious money in a nice stabilizer rig. Just remember… whatever you purchase, there is an art to using the device 3.What Type of Mobility Do You Need? The next big question you need to ask yourself: what type of mobility do I need? Do you need to attach a camera to a car? Do you need to run behind or in front of a character? Or perhaps you need to get an aerial shot? By answering this question, you can determine if you need a 3-Axis Gimbal, Steadicam rig, or even a drone. While a drone itself is not a form of stabilization, there are gimbal options for just about every drone which allow you to capture amazingly smooth footage. 4.How Heavy Is Your Camera Load-Out? This is going to be a very important question that you need to answer as soon as possible. Knowing the weight of your camera load-out will determine how much you need to spend for stabilization, as not all stabilizers can accommodate heavier amounts of weight. Cheaper stabilizers can handle lighter camera loads, while the more expensive stabilizers like the MoVI M15 can handle up to 15lbs of camera load, which should cover a number of higher-end cameras for those that do not know load out includes the weight of the camera and ALL accessories like battery matt box lens's filters monitor audio recorder anything you need to mount on the camera or rig to do the job. 5.Setup Time and Compactness? You’ll want to also make sure that you know exactly how long the setup time is for each stabilization option. This is important information to know… you don’t want to waste shooting time trying to setup your stabilization option. Also, you’ll want to know how compact the stabilization option is as well. This information will really come in handy if you have to do any major traveling. Odds are your not ready to step up to a good steady cam system just yet even a half way decent cheap set up will run you a Grand or more. my advice even though your not asking is instead build a really good shoulder rig to start out I say this because I ran out and bout a steady cam rig first and the reality was I needed a good shoulder rig a lot more then the Steady cam Rig Vitale
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If you're really wanting a stabilizer then I would use a glide cam. I've been using mine for years.
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@John Garrett (and others) If the need is a day or two for a client, why not hire an operator? No learning curve, no equipment cost, build it into the price for the job or sell it with the quote for the project as an add on. We could bring in a Stedi-cam operator for these shots, but that would be $xx extra
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JD, that is a great idea overall. But everything I have shot I have been able to do well with what I have. Although for an upcoming project I am considering a glide cam.
Thank you guys all this is great info. I will look into the glide cam. I am just starting out. and the gear has been a mystery. I would like to shoot shorts but Commercial production or industrial video is great too.
The movi is by far the best on the market! Free fly systems really knows what they're doing. There are several more cost effective options but with that camera the movi works beautifully
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Still baffled by why you think that just starting out you need a stedicam of some sort. You probably need to develop the skills and muscles to do on the shoulder and hand-held camera work first. Seems like you're putting the cart before the horse. There's a ton of stuff your going to need to kit-out a new camera.
Why not a DJI Ronin ? I use it with the c100 Mark II and it's awesome. Much cheaper than a Movi