Screenwriting : The Religion of Story Structure, and the Death of Comedy. by Chris Donald Griffin

Chris Donald Griffin

The Religion of Story Structure, and the Death of Comedy.

This isn't a post demonizing story structure. Structure is extremely important, I just find that nowadays, it's often misunderstood, over-simplified, and in a way, deified. Personally, I'm an advocate of Syd Field's concept of "Story determines structure".

In recent years, I've seen a decline of good Hollywood comedies. Other than a couple of "sci-fi/comedy" features on Netflix, I haven't seen much in the way of good Hollywood comedies. I recently rewatched 2019's "Good Boys", which is genius, but movies like that are far rarer than they used to be. Years back, I binged indie comedies, and found a bunch of gems, but those were not high profile films.

I think this partially has to do with a trend of rigid adherence to particular story structures, particularly common structures implemented in dramas. During the pandemic, I entered some of my comedy screenplays into various competitions. In comedy and underground comps, my screenplays killed. In more generalized or high profile comps, I didn't do so well, and the feedback was intriguing. I kept getting praise for my originality, wit, and the fact that the readers laughed all the way through the screenplay. I was then penalized for elements and expectations I found more appropriate to drama. I was penalized for not structuring my screenplays like dramas, even though part of the reason they're so funny, is because I don't structure them like dramas.

Throughout cinema history, structures in comedy films have varied greatly based on the style, message, and intent of the type of comedy being implemented. I have a hard time believing that classic films like "Airplane", "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", and "Young Frankenstein" could be made today. "The Naked Gun"? That would be seen as a structural nightmare.

How do you all feel about this dynamic? Do you agree or disagree? Do you think I'm missing something?

Dan MaxXx

False. Your info is from contests, which has 0 to do with making movies.

Chris Donald Griffin

Dan MaxXx , it still has to do with attitudes that exist in the industry. I've heard similar sentiments from lots of people outside of the world of contests. Contests just serve as a good example.

Dan Guardino

Chris. Who are these people outside the world of contests you are refering to?

Chris Donald Griffin

Dan Guardino , it's a mix. Some are fellow screenwriters, others producers, executives, film scholars, and critics. This certainly isn't a view held by everyone (the adherence to strict story structure), but it's increased a lot in recent years. It just makes it harder and more time consuming to get good comedies made, and in front of an audience. I met a couple of accomplished producers - accomplished in other genres - who claimed that comedies weren't selling or couldn't be sold. I found that odd, because comedies have been popular throughout cinema history. There could be other reasons why comedies are struggling nowadays; political correctness hasn't done comedy any favours, although some still break through.

Nick Bohle

I agree that nuanced comedic stories are more rare. Solid observation. I tend to gravitate towards dramedy for it's more unique storylines.

Chris Donald Griffin

There are some great dramedies out there, but I certainly am missing all the absurdist comedies and satires that used to pop up. Tv/streaming still have some enduring stuff: "South Park", "Lower Decks", "Final Space", and "Brooklyn 99" was a pure joy up until the last season.

Nick Bohle

Watching Brooklyn 99 as we speak. It's funny for sure. Sometimes Peralta gets a little gnawing on the senses but it's a great show.

Chris Donald Griffin

I would say, it was one of the most influential sitcoms since "Arrested Development". Now "Arrested Development", that really had a structure of its own, and the last season had a completely different structure to anything I've ever seen in a sitcom.

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