Screenwriting : Fourth Feedback received by Justin Groats

Justin Groats

Fourth Feedback received

I got my fourth feedback, and I want to say that I have now received the lowest score on my pitches, I re-wrote the pitch to make it more organized, but avail, received the lowest score.

I do not know how to revaluate my pitch if this second revaluation has failed while keeping the main idea

Matthew Kelcourse

Hi Justin Groats - when I find the courage to do a face-to-face pitch, one thing I decided after watching other pitches is that I won't be reading a scripted pitch or following an outline. I know my story and just have to be brave enough to spend five minutes walking some who knows a lot more than me about filmmaking through a story they know nothing about. Simple as that :-0 Write on.

Justin Groats

Matthew Kelcourse this was a written pitch, so I submitted the two pages

Dan Guardino

Justin Groats Why do you keep doing this. Do you think it will help you sell your screenplay?

Matthew Kelcourse

I'll take the other side Dan Guardino - yes it will. We all learn more from our losses than our wins. Justin will do what we all have done many times - we'll get knocked down, and we'll get up again; ain't nothing gonna keep us down :-)

Justin Groats

Dan Guardino I know it won’t, I wanted to keep people updated and such.

Justin Groats

Matthew Kelcourse no he’s asking why am I just keep posting my results

Amanda Toney

Matthew Kelcourse - I agree with you completely. It takes 1000 no's to get your 1 yes. Along the way you need to get as much feedback as possible to make sure that your pitch is on point, your story is on point and you feel 100% confident going to market. I have been in buyers rooms where they pick apart EVERYTHING. You need to be prepared for all angles so when you are about to get your "yes" you are prepared. to answer - you don't want anything preventing you from your greenlight. I absolutely love your perspective. And, as for courage to do face to face, I highly recommend you join us in the Writers' Room - for those who are introverts or struggle without the computer as a shield it's a great place to get support to break you out of your shell during our pitch practice sessions. If you want a free month in the Writers' Room send me a DM here and I'll get you one. Would love to have you join us. And if anyone else is reading this and wants a free month, DM me. Would love to have you join us.

Amanda Toney

Justin Groats - it's possible that something in the pitch didn't make sense or click to the person reading or hearing it. That's okay! You can think about how you pitched it that time and wonder if there was something you did differently that might have caused that confusion and start to hone in on that for the next time you pitch. Excited to see you keep making progress with it!

Dan Guardino

Matthew Kelcourse Getting negative feedback isn’t a loss. I was just asking him if his main goal was to sell it to someone charging him money to get feedback on his pitch. If it is he'll probably be disapointed.

Sam Rivera

I think there is always 2 sides of looking at things, Justin Groats you should definitely give yourself a pat on the back for the effort and ability to create something and process the feedback, that's a powerful skill to have. I remember being told early on in my career from a Manager who asked what my goals were, though I was a young doe-eyed graduate, they told me that I had a good head on my shoulders and would keep me going in the industry, that was something that stuck to me a lot. Keep going, you have something on your hands!

Dan Guardino

Sam Rivera There are not two sides to this. I just asked him a simple question which was if he expected to sell his screenplay that way. His answer was no. I agree he probably won’t sell his screenplay that way.

Justin Groats

Dan Guardino wait it’s not?? so what’s with the script of more material requests for??

Dan Guardino

Did you sell a screenplay yet?

Justin Groats

Dan Guardino what do you mean by sell?

Dan Guardino

I mean did you sell a screenplay or give someone an option for money using the pay to pitching here?

Matthew Kelcourse

Thanks Justin Groats & Dan Guardino - I was on a completely different, though mayhap valid, track ;-)

Dan Guardino

Justin Groats It is not how you would sell a screenplay. Sure they might ask to read more material. They post that here all the time but you never see them post how many were actually sold. That is because it almost never happens. It is a long shot at best in a tournament career. I don't like to sound so negative but I am not trying to sell anything so I might as well be honest and tell it like it really is.

Kay Gossage-Longo

I feel for you. My lowest scores came from my last pitch too - it was my first written submission as the calls were all taken. I had a 2 pages limit. It was not enough space and I cut out parts that were needed for better clarity. I am doing a TV series (fantasy) . I am trying to incorporate the new remarks into my Pitch. Written should be longer than 2 pages since we get 8 minutes to Pitch but it is what it is. Hang in there! Are there any consistent comments to fix? Start there maybe.

Dan Guardino

Kay Gossage-Longo Most of these so-called experts probably never sold a screenplay so take whatever they say with a grain of salt.FWIW the average executive last about five years in this busness and I got a feeling a lot of them end up here. LOL!

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