Screenwriting : The last year I've been struggling to write but found a solution by Vital Butinar

Vital Butinar

The last year I've been struggling to write but found a solution

So the last year or so I've been wanting to spend my downtime writing but somehow just couldn't get into the mood.

Let me say that I'm not a writer but a director who likes to write sometimes, but usually I write the first draft and then someone with more experience does the writing.

But I've had a couple of ideas that I've been wanting to write and I just could not get in the right mood.

Lately I've found a new way of getting the work done.

I usually create an outline to a degree and then try and start to write but I always get stuck at something and then I stall there.

But this time I did something different. I wrote all the scene names and under the scenes I wrote a short description of what I wanted to happen and I did that right up till the end.

Then I just went from the beginning to the end and expanded.

First the action and then the dialog.

I'm really happy because I actually got the first draft done in a week and a couple of days.

So I'm interested what do you guys do to write or make it easier.

I'm especially interested in people who are not foremost writers.

Jerry Robbins

Hi Vital - I block my scenes out, divided into 3 acts. Usually a short paragraph describing the action in each scene. I used a board and index cards (pictured), but now I use the beat board on Final Draft. I can do a split screen with the cards and my script, and it takes up less space.

Kiril Maksimoski

Well, I'm a writer who hates directing :) Can we find some mutualness?

Gilberto Villahermosa

Talk about a picture that paints a thousand words! Literally! I wish I were as well organized as you are!

Doug Nelson

Jerry - that's old school...I use it and it still works for me. I've also used post-it notes stuck on the studio window. Whatever works for you is the 'right' way.

Jerry Robbins

Doug - I love the board and cards and it took me a while to get used to the virtual board; it was a matter of space for me. I will admit, the virtual board isn't as much fun as the cards

Rutger Oosterhoff

The solution of understanding why it worked what you did could maybe a "Film Courage" lecture: Conceptual writer/mind [versus] Intuitive writer/mind --- you can't use both at the same time!

Watch from 11:29 -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZgWw5juPJ8

Juliana Beckett

Seems like you've got it figured out! I like the notecards on MovieMagic but I just use Excel to plot the story out. You can put as many variables as needed into the columns.

Craig D Griffiths

I am a scriptment guy. I call it my Dot Point stage.

I’ll put questions in the document and hints to myself like “we need to demonstrate sorrow”.

Just realised I use “we”.

Vital Butinar

Thank you guys for pitching in.

Jerry Robbins oh wow that's cool. I like to do some things analog and it's a good idea. I'll try to find a way how to do it so that I don't have to use so much space which I currently don't have.

@Kiril Maksimoski we should definitely connect! I don't hate writing I just have a director's way of doing it.

@ Rutger Oosterhoff I think you're on to something thank you. I think I'm more of a "conceptual" and it was put nicely that the characters I wrote have never been organic. Because they literally were not and a way I have always found to deal with that is to partner up with someone who gives my characters life.

@ Juliana Beckett thank you. Well I have never actually used excel for something like this because I don't think I'd get any writing done that way.

It's interesting because when I was a kid we lived in Africa and I never had any problem but when we moved back to my native country problems in school developed. After sending me to a bunch of learning specialists they figured out that I was a rare case of person who uses not one half of the brain predominantly but both. Also why I'm nether a lefty or a righty but both. They figured out that I am both technically inclined and artistically. Which is consistent to what I've found in my life.

But what I'm trying to say is that I think that this reflects in my writing as well since I have stories I'd like to write but they might not be coming out exactly the way I'd want because I get hung up on the technical part also. Need to work on that.

@Craig D Griffiths very interesting. I've done that myself but later on when I was rewriting a screenplay. I just put questions and built a character around it. Thank you for reminding me.

CJ Walley

Vital Butinar, what you describe is effectively how I write. Scriptments changed everything for me. I suggest you take a good look at Scrivener which fits this development method particularly well. Also check out PreWrite.

Here's more on my system which might work well for you.

Rutger Oosterhoff

That is great Vital, a great team is a powerful thinktank, and you can get each other out of possible tunnel vision!

Douglas Glenn Clark

Notebooks. cheap notebooks. pens and pencils. I like this method because I don't feel trapped in the software of the screen. Lists. I make lists -- sequences, actions (your method is strong), scenes, pieces of dialogue --- without regard for shape or where things fit. Just let 'er rip. Then with all your bounty begin to shape sequences.

Jim Boston

Vital, that's the way I do it, too!

I call my version an "outline/scene list," in that I try to describe how each scene's supposed to play out. Any sort of dialog I really, truly want to put into the screenplay I'm planning out goes into the outline/scene list as well. And while I'm building the OSL, I also do research on the world I'm trying to construct with that screenplay. (For example, when I was working on "Pixie Dust," I went online to learn as much as I could about the school "Pixie Dust" depicted, the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities...especially the school's campus life.)

Gotten myself to where I don't want to launch an actual screenplay until I've developed an OSL beforehand. (And even when I'm actually writing the script, I continue to hit Google for extra research...anything to help make things lifelike and believable.)

Once the script's FADE IN-FADE OUT boundaries are determined, I run it through Prewrite for further fine-tuning.

Great post, Vital! All the VERY BEST to you!

Vital Butinar

Thanks @CJ Walley. That was a nice read and I checked out PreWrite looks interesting.

Like I said I'm not exactly a writer but I try to put down on paper the film I see in my head.

It is right @Rutger Oosterhoff. I like working with teams because it makes everything a lot better in the end. More ideas and more stuff gets done well.

@Douglas Glenn Clark that's really interesting. Myself I kind of go between analog and digital all the time. I do stuff digitally then at one time I make notes and of course lose them and then make them digitally again.

@Jim Boston well I had the story in my head so I just wrote the outline with scenes and a short description and then started expanding.

It's interesting because I get to a point in a couple of scenes where I get stuck a little but by doing this I can move on to the next scene and still get some work done. Where when I was writing from start to finish I would get stuck and that's it.

So this way at least I get more done before having to figure out all the stuff.

Kelli Lightfoot

I consider myself to be primarily an author - prose and literary fiction, but I woke up one day with a movie in my head and I'm in the process of writing the screenplay. And by "in the process" I mean I am literally learning the mechanics of how to write a screenplay. That said, I am approaching it pretty much as you have lined out. It lets me flesh out my story while I figure out how to make it a movie.

Vital Butinar

@Kelli Lightfoot oh that's cool and yeah it helps me too. I've started writing a couple of things but never finished because of this exact reason because I always got stuck. But with this one I'm just flying trough the first draft.

When I finish this one I'll go back and try the same way.

Good luck with your screenplay.

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