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What Patrick said

Define doc; if it's a doc about hip hop dancers, motocross, NASCAR or anything similar, you will be fighting the rolling shutter even with the camera locked down. If you are shooting architecture, sit down interviews, time lapse and slow controlled imagery, DSLRs can work. The example of Shane Hurlbut's war doc is notable by the fact it's one of handfull of notable films shot on DSLRs with large post fix-it budgets that got released. Exceptions tend to prove a rule. Cameras like MkIII and 1DC can be used for individual specialty shots ( crash cams, etc ) on studio films; never think for a second the y shoot the whole movie that way or that the footage isn;t heavily fixed in post- beyond anything you can figure out to do or have the software for in fact. Yes, they shot an episiode of house on 5D's; and then went right back to real gear after the experiment. I travel with a DSLR, I use one all the time for a number of uses ( mostly as a viewfinder scouting locations, shooting auditions, location stills )... better than a cell phone camera, not a real video camera.

What Patrick said. If you're shooting action footage though; you're already in the price range of the black magic mini, and I've had nothing but good experiences with that little cam.

I agree Royce to a point, as already established any heavy movement will cause headaches with the RS locked down or not. I was simply pointing out that it was a big budget that got released and had a large part shot on DSLR's, Shane does use them quite often check out the hurlblog and shane's inner circle to see some really great things being done with DSLR. RS is not strictly an issue for DSLR's the RED MX has rolling shutter along with the C100,300,etc. It's not just the RS, it's also the very limited DR/Latitude, noise ratio, etc. We could start a whole new forum on complaining about what cameras lack or why we don't like certain aspects, but I prefer to look for the positives and benefits of using them. Like I say, you can have an Alexa or RED Dragon and shoot garbage, and on the flipside you can have a T2i and shoot some fantastic imagery. It's not just what you have, but how you use it. To say that it's not "a real video camera" is exhibiting a foolish position, that's like saying a ford isn't a real car, it's better than a golf cart, but if you want a "real" car get a Lamborghini. My 2 cents. Regards.

The RS issue on Canon DSLRs is much worse than that on REDs so moot comparison. I agree with the color space, lattitude, etc... and it is about how you use a tool, obviously.. to a point. For those like me who make a living with tools, or those who aspire to, understanding horses for courses matters, hence my comments above. There's nothing foolish about saying a DSLR isn't a real video camera- IT IS NOT, any more than your cel phone is, and anyone else with a background in film cameras or broadcast work would agree, in my humble opinion. Yes, it shoots video. It's not a professional tool, though if you define professional as money making, plenty of money has been made with DSLRs, no doubt. It's also not a Ford/ Lambo comparison as much as it is a car / mountain bike comparison. They have similarities but really cannot do the job of the other properly.. and the more expert the driver, the bigger the dissatisfaction. As this is more of an enthusiast forum than a professional one, it may be more useful to merely state that for $1500ish, one can get superb camcorders that serve a filmmakers need much better than any DSLR.

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