Screenwriting : Page Count Issues by Dana Hawthorne

Dana Hawthorne

Page Count Issues

I’ve been struggling with my writing since a traumatic car accident over a year ago. I just finished writing a new script (the second draft, actually), and the story feels right to me. The problem: it’s a feature, but only 81 pages.

How bad would you consider that? Should I be worried about beefing up the script before submitting to managers and competitions?

Vincent Turner

not really, look at your main reason to add pages... you want to have full movie, now the producers might scrap scenes the more scenes the better usually 80-120 you CAN still write

Craig D Griffiths

dialogue heavy scripts have a high page count, action heavy tend to have a lower page could.

“he chases her down the street” is a line which is about one second. That is going to be more than that on screen.

Dale Reynolds

Hi, Dana, You've been given some good advice here from the others. I can only add congratulations for recovering from your accident to the extent that you can write a screenplay! Short scripts are good for short stories, it can be said. I always have the opposite problem - I have on offer scripts that that would seem to be too long . I am dialog heavy (but each talk scene moves the depth of the story, doesn't waste time). Anyway, get back to it. Good luck. Dale Reynolds writdale@gmail.com

Dana Hawthorne

Thank you so much for the advice and encouragement, everyone! I’ll definitely be going through and using what you’ve all shared to try and beef up the story! :)

Stephen Folker

Dana, a good screenplay is more important hitting a specific page count. When it comes to getting a film distributed, runtime only needs to be about 75-85 min depending on platform. With that in mind, I think you're fine. If your screenplay is all talking heads, then I'd add some moments that don't involve talking. My last script I produced was originally 71 pages long and I cut out 14 pages during filming and it's still 79 min runtime. Moral of story, depends on how it's shot. Wishing you all the best!!

Dana Hawthorne

Thank you, Stephen Folker

Dana Hawthorne

I’m not sure if knowing the genre would help, but it’s a political romance. Rough logline: Two political opponents fall for each other in the midst of a heated election.

E Langley

Very generally, and all things being equal (i.e. not A QUIET PLACE), a script that short points to underdeveloped characters. Look there.

Maurice Vaughan

81 pages is ok if that's all you need to tell the story, Dana Hawthorne. If you can add things to make your script longer, great, but make sure those things are important to the story and not filler. I watched a feature film a few days ago that was 85 minutes (with opening credits and end credits).

Bill Albert

How long does it read? The average is one page equals one minute but not all scripts read out that way. Establishing shots, travel shots, montages can all add up and make the final production longer. Have you read through it and allowed yourself extra time, for instance, a scene where a character may just be getting to their office, getting out of their car, and heading into the lobby, elevator, hanging up their coat? It's very little page space but actually visualizing it can be quite different.

Dana Hawthorne

Bill Albert honestly that’s what I was thinking and why I wanted to ask, because I have a series of shots that, written out, takes up about a quarter of the page, while (in my head at least) it’s plays about a minute. I was thinking that maybe it plays a good time, but written is a little short. Thank you for the input!!

Dana Hawthorne

I might be commenting a lot on my own post, but once again thank you for all the input and advice! Brain injuries are a new experience that I’m still getting used to, even a year after my car accident, and it helps so much to have a community to turn to for help!

Maurice Vaughan

You're welcome, Dana Hawthorne. Congratulations on finishing a script after the accident! You're inspiring! We're here for you!

GJ Harvey

A prod-co that specializes in horror insists all (if not most) scripts they produce are trimmed to 85. However other readers may think you've got room to add more on character. I think 90 is the sweet spot. I recall a tutorial on adding character scenes before and after action i.e. the calm before the storm and then the aftermath.

Kerson Raymond

Depends: If you have quite a bit of Montage Sequence/Timelapse Composite/Flashback (Requiem for a dream) in there...you might get away with it, considering all of the scenes are phenomenally tight and must be kept by producer. if not, there is room to prolong some scenes. But first, study the pace of the film, the rhythm of the characters and cadence between the two aforementioned to know where to add and not just adding dialogue for the sake of adding to fulfill page count. Sometimes all you need is for your protagonist to overcome one more obstacle, you can add 4 to 5 pages easily. My two cents..! Good luck Dana Hawthorne

CJ Walley

It's a good thing and, if anything, advantageous.

1) Most screening times at film markets are ~90min slots.

2) A 90min film is typically cheaper to make than a 120min film.

3) It suggests you don't write with much fat.

4) It's a more inviting read as requires less time.

5) There's room for more should notes demand it.

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