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Bob Harper Yes dear Bob i started that back in 2020 , Wrote Max n Luke , got it vetted by MIKE DISA , he is a celebrity mentor here in Stage32 , sent that deck to lot of networks, during kid screens, Its really hard to raise money through investors , packaging itself is a big task , Then Created Gopalakidz youtube channel , hoping to raise some YT money , i ralised you have to burn money before you see your first dollar , almost burned 200k to push that channel, the channel is live with 50k subscribers and generates $30 per month, Then I thought to hire some on US who represent us and find good projects, SO i hired Zero gravity management, paid 10k upfront, all they did was put repping news on deadline, after that i never heard from them in three years, LOL to get them to face to face i have to spend another 10k to visit their office, So i guess this is the way, you keep trying keep trying . neva give up and your time will come. There are many like me who are looking producers who wants to produce in less , There are many producers who are looking for good teams, This is where this fits. Match maker match maker make me a match .!!! A community to keep you going. I strongly STAGE32 can do it , I mean they have done a lot already, we are talking to each other. this is magic. Now its time for a paradigm shift.

Kumar Sambhav Your journey in trying to do you own IP answers your question on why indie producers aren't jumping at the opportunity to enlist your services. They are going through the same hoops in trying to get a buyer or distributor, and they are learning, as many of us are, that the numbers don't add up, especially when they are padding the budget beyond studio services.

Family and kids' entertainment buying is halting unless you have a great IP and/or serious marketing money. Our rep talked to everyone at MIP and Kidscreen, and international buyers are more focused on their territories to gain the financial breaks they get to keep the production local.

Theatrical is pretty much dead for indies, and DVDs and BluRay, which were cash cows, are no longer a big revenue window, and streamers keep paying less and less.

The paradigm needs to shift from the old ways to new ways, such as focusing on smaller productions, niche audiences, creative financing, alternate platforms, and different types of content.

Bob Harper Great Insights Dear Bob , This is what is happening, and your Last two lines is exactly the solution i m pitching to communities like STAGE32 , With the advancement in technology smaller teams will produce great content, but they will still need money, not in millions but in thousands may be, and once the content is ready, its going to get sold , cuz lotsa ppl are buying completed shows in lesser price. This is it. win-win for every one . one who owns the IP takes the bigger bite.

Hey Kumar, it's nice to hear your enthusiasm, it is needed. I like that your efforts are focused more on the indie side but tell me what you forecast for the major studios right now trying to structure AI into their workflows?

I feel like there has been a great deal of creative gatekeeping going on which has caused us to come to this point as a culture not only in the states but globally. I was in LA(physically) almost 8 years ago pounding pavement and I'd have to say that it was more for sightseeing than opportunity.

Those companies restructuring means even less opportunity and more of those same IPs that are likely to draw less and less audiences. That is happening now in gaming to long standing pillars of the medium b/c investors use the past success of an IP as an excuse not to innovate. Like a slowly boiling cartoon frog...with superpowers!

Terence Daniels Thanks !! Long time ago when George Lucas introduced software-based editing, with the help of some Stanford grads , he hired back then , There was revolt , strike and what not , they thought editors will loose their jobs , after some unrest they adopted new ways and look where is editing now , AI is scary right now , we lost our big client citing AI , they have developed some language models, through which they will now do generative animation and upload in their youtube channels, they are like coco melon of Europe , They told us , it is going to save cost for them , After this major hit, we looked at AI with a positive approach, and adopted few tools, and we created a ANIME teaser in 3 days flat from scratch, which would have taken 4 -8 weeks traditionally after that I sent an email in my network, that 90 min 3D CGI is possiblei in $750k and less than 12 months. One of the major studios replied and had a call with 7 of their professionals in the call, how was this possible, I showed them the demo. They seemed very optimistic,

Major Studios have there challenges , but Industry as a whole is very generous, there is room for everyone, if there is an ecosystem where we can approach just by saying hello and we getting ample of business , we all make money , don't have to chase big giants, when your content is loved by the audience they will pick you, NIMONA , One punch man, stranger things , mighty bheem , These stories are proof that when story telling is incredible , it will go beyond, Recently in India interesting case study happened, There was this GUJRATI MOVIE called VASH , locally produced in local language it hardly earned money max $250k , but the story telling was great , One Bollywood producer acquired the rights for Remake , He spent around $5million , it grossed over $40mn world wide, The movies name is SHAITAAN.

We all have great stories to tell , but there so many moving parts required to make a movie, Hope someone will tie this together soon.

You're welcome, Bob Harper. And thanks. I'm gonna share Ramon's video on my social media.

As someone who’s on the spectrum and has a son on the spectrum, thank you for sharing this! I had no idea this existed! I can’t wait to share this with my family!

Brian Gunter I'm glad you found us. I also have a son on the spectrum. It's the main reason I am so passionate about this project.

Bob Harper I feel you. I watched the first episode and I think my kids will love it! Especially who it’s coming from. So good for you and please pass along another “great job” to the team. We’ll stay tuned here!

Brian Gunter Thanks, I will let our team know!

Thanks for posting. I love me some Anime fight scenes. Will check these all out later. Dying to do my own anime fight scene soon.

Fight scenes have their own style and flair, and it's always interesting to see how their going to turn out. Will have to check this out Terence Daniels

This loos pretty cool.

I hope you don't mind the mistakes and repeats in there. I was looking at a lot of footage but mostly the best from other bests. The terminology is one word meant to convey an overarching idea concerned with the ever-present, and I say, highly confusing fight scenes.

To have a frame of reference for where one type of activity begins or blends with the next is good for context if not experimentation. Again a lot of timing with these things is the same but as you said Daniel Husbands these things can take on a unique movement and/or graphical style.

Matthew D Rhodes I remember Final Fantasy The Spirits Within and it does remain a benchmark for me. When I saw it I knew animation would not be the same again. It was amazing to see how real it looked back then.

Matthew D Rhodes Have you generated any visuals yet, I really thrive on such things.

Terence Daniels I've got some concepts art and I've been in contact with a professor that is allowing his students to use a scene from my project as a class project and I'll be given the final to use in Crowdfunding.

Any style can now be marketed to any age group. Blue Eye Samurai is 2D and very R-rated, and Sausage Party, on the surface, looked like a Kids' movie but was also R-rated. As many have pointed out, it comes down to vision, and in the case of independent production, it comes down to practicality - what can you produce with the resources you have.

Bob Harper It's a good thing Unreal Engine doesn't charge to use until you make money off your projects.

Interesting

That is unreal. Wow. Thanks for sharing. Even the section where it edited the woman wearing a dress "wear a gold or purple gown" - that technical implication can also span to e-commerce retailers to use for their products. Crazy.

It is scary and amazing how fast AI is growing.

Wow, "Harold Halibut" looks incredible, Mike Boas! I thought stop-motion was only used in movies.

I saw this showcased somewhere, very cool style. There's something about stop-motion that people just can't get enough of, and to incorporate it into gameplay is a new take on it.

Technically not stop motion, but taking the scanned puppets and elements then animating in the computer. Groundbreaking!

I always love seeing passion pieces making it to their destinations.

It may take some time before Youtube covers productions cost, but as has been previously mentioned it is a great way to see if what you've got can attract an audience. Sometimes a great idea is before it's time, or only a great idea to the creator. Getting out in front of people will help to determine if you have a project with legs or you need to move on to the next. I would give Youtube a run, but continue to pitch. As your audience grows you'll have better positioning should someone check you out.

Ok Kamar, I see what you mean. That sounds like advertising, not affecting number of times the algorithm promotes your video in searches. A slight distinction in my mind.

I’ll also say that putting animation on YouTube is not enough to build an audience. Grassroots community building would involve social media, email newsletters, patreon, discord, etc.

Mike Boas Yes Youtube is a good way to promote your content to get some early traction to show engagement with your content to your investors, the 2d Anime teaser i posted recently , that IP is on tiktok only , and they are killing it, they are producing a show cuz they are super hit on Tiktok.

Youtube is viable for getting your work out there, and if you can build an audience to attract sponsors, then you have a better shot of making money. Whether it is YouTube, Roku etc. the future of entertainment will be indies finding a way to get their work somewhere as the industry continues to implode. If you can afford to produce it and get it out there, that's better than pitching for years and having it sit still on your hard drive. But you have to promote it, advertise it, and just hope that it will get discovered if you want any chance of financial success.

Has anyone tried to, or successfully used Crunchyroll?

This looks fun, Mike Boas! "Really shows what you can do with imagination and not much money" I only work in the indie world right now, so I know exactly what you mean. I gotta check out "Hundreds of Beavers." Thanks for sharing.

It looks awesome, Mike Boas! I'm adding it to my watchlist ASAP!

Very imaginative, thanks for the share Mike Boas

Just watched it with my daughter. We couldn't stop chuckling all the way through it.

Thanks for sharing. The twelve principles are always desirable; however, when it comes to short deadlines and high quotas, the inside joke is that we can only afford three!

Fast, good, or cheap. Pick two!

Which principle can you get away with the most Bob Harper ?

Daniel Husbands It depends on the project, the deadline and the goal of the project, but usually the three we can use and get away with and still make a project watchable are easing, arcs and timing.

Many are just baked into the process. Pose-to-pose is HOW to animate. Staging is HOW to communicate clearly.

That said, I animated for years without eases. I was able to tell stories fine, but shots lacked a certain finesse.

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Sounds like a very creative idea, with all of the stuff on Netflix seems like a perfect fit to me.

What's funny is the article basically said he pitched Netflix and they said no. Not that they had any commitment to say otherwise. So really the article is like a press release saying "Lynch has a project, anyone want to hear the pitch and bid?"

why dont STAGE32 come up with crowdfunding the Indie movie , they have 1mn users , if each one pays $10 , there you have 10mn , and all the talent is here only , i have a mid size full service 3d animation and vfx studio, delivering at highy discounted budgets. , and STAGE32 is a known brand, they can distribute it, and STAGE32 has the potential to grow up as a full 360 ecosystem.

Sounds like you’re proposing what Legion M does.

This points to a really important discussion on work/life balance and the realistic or unrealistic nature of expectations from studios. I think the appetite of content consumption is too high for studios to keep up with demand, and while I'm also a big consumer of content, I've read about the pressure to put out a product at the expense of peoples sanity.

Especially with animated series, the pace should be something that doesn't wipe out an entire team after each season. I remember when you had to wait each week to watch the next episode of shows on tv. Now all that work, the months and months of work (if not years), is watched within a week and the demand for the next season (if the show is good) starts almost immediately.

Hope the team rests up well.

When they ask me to describe Bluey, I always tell people that it's Seinfeld for the whole family. And like Seinfeld, I think the creator wants to go out on a high note.

I completely agree, Daniel Husbands! As a content lover who understands what it takes to bring a great story to the screen, I'm always happy to wait as long as it takes to get more. I love to live within a story world and watch the characters grow, but if you tell me, "It's going to take 2-3 years for us to do it right", then I'll happily wait 2-3 years. I'll wait longer. I just wish more people felt that way and that the market allowed for it.

That makes sense, Bob Harper! You dont want to push yourself and end up watering down a great story.

i know i've mentioned it elsewhere on s32 - bluey is one of the best animated shows in the history of forever - hands down - and even this - needs a minute to regroup. i'm glad they are honoring their storytelling. especially after seeing the half hour special - sweet as ever - but - lacking, imho...